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Cephelange du'Krevviq
Hephaestus LLC
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Posted - 2012.09.24 18:55:00 -
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Annubis Lorn wrote:I suppose there won't be a single educated and proper response to this thread. Just more 12 yo shutins that don't have anything better to do than trash ppl in the forums and talk smack. Thanks guys for showing your ignorance. YAY EVE for attracting every ****** and ***hole in the gaming community.
I'm far from 12 and definitely not a shut-in - not that I really need to justify my response to you. Most people deal with AFK cloakers just fine. You either shut down your ops because it's not worth the risk, or you prepare as best you can and press on. If you shut down your ops, you're 98% likely doing exactly what the AFK cloaker wants you to do.
Quote:Personally i see it as a type of exploit, and it is a completely unbalanced tactic.
It's not an exploit, nor is it unbalanced. It's an account being sustained month after month, and not generating any income or anything else productive. |
Cephelange du'Krevviq
Hephaestus LLC
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Posted - 2012.09.24 19:54:00 -
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Annubis Lorn wrote:ok, honestly.... AFK cloakers are chicken ***** that dont have the backbone to do any proper PvP, and im gonna go out on a limb and say that the responders to this post are exactly the pilots im refering to. And no..... havnt been a victim in HED to that bunch of FAIL ass bombers that couldnt hit a titan hung up in an asteroid belt.
The only ones that need to grow a set are the little girls that sit in a SS cloaked for hours on end because they cant fit a ship that may actually kill someone. You guys dont want it fixed because then you would have no reason to play EVE since you cant really kill anyone.
See, by painting everyone with such a broad paintbrush, you're only setting yourself up to be wrong. I have better things to do with my EVE time than sit in a system cloaked for hours on end. It's a shame your underbritches are chaffing or whatever it is that has you grouchy.
Also, there are a lot of differing opinions as to what "proper" PvP is; you PvP your way, others will PvP their way. Sometimes that PvP takes the form of PsyOps - aka, sitting cloaked in a system to disrupt ops and/or gather intel.
It's a shame you can't accept that as a valid tactic. |
Cephelange du'Krevviq
Hephaestus LLC
Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2012.09.24 20:14:00 -
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Sjugar wrote:I basically consider them bots, the computer is playing the game while the player is doing something else.
Logic fallacy; the only thing they are "doing" is sitting there. The only effect they are having is what the other players are allowing them to have. |
Cephelange du'Krevviq
Hephaestus LLC
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Posted - 2012.09.24 20:31:00 -
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Sjugar wrote:...so you have to act as if they're there
Emphasizing the important part of your post. Only you decide how they are going to impact your gameplay. |
Cephelange du'Krevviq
Hephaestus LLC
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Posted - 2012.09.24 20:38:00 -
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Do you mine in high-sec? Then you mine in a system with a lot more hostiles than I might in null. Even worse, you don't know for sure which they are in high-sec; at least in null, you know who the unfriendly is. If you still want to mine, then have some friends play guard; ideally, one of them will be a Falcon, cloaked nearby.
Is it that hard to figure out appropriate measures to take to continue on doing what you want to do? |
Cephelange du'Krevviq
Hephaestus LLC
Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2012.09.24 20:46:00 -
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Sjugar wrote:It's nice to list a lot of things you can do to be safer, but both of you are circling around my point: people shouldn't be able to have an impact on gameplay while not behind their computer screen.
I'll happily move to another system allign bladiebladiebla, but please let that be because the guy who is making me be behind his computer. Not out drinking with his friends.
Again, you are making the choice of how to react; you are circling our point. |
Cephelange du'Krevviq
Hephaestus LLC
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Posted - 2012.09.27 21:13:00 -
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Raiko Osburn wrote:After reading this discussion (and many previous in other threads), I have to agree, that being AFK while cloaked simply to make players uncomfortable is misuse of game mechanics.
Solution to this could be new AFK icon for players in local. Once player is not moving for lets say 15 minutes, he will get this new AFK mark on his portrait in local and he gets AFK flag. When he gets back, he will have to click 'I am back' button. Once he clicks the button, AFK icon will disapeare and he will have 30s countdown before he can move with his ship. Ofc if his cloak drops for any other reason (bumped or somthing), there will be no countdown.
We dont have to change cloak mechanics. It works great. What we need is implementation of AFK mechanics for cloaked ships.
Next you'll have people complaining that someone purposefully leaving their flag up to lull the locals into a false sense of security is an exploit. Because if i were the type to lurk in a system that didn't belong to my alliance or a friendly, that's exactly what I would do.
Step 1. Let 'AFK' flag pop up every day I'm in system for, say, a week
Step 2. Wait for locals to get used to me being "AFK"
Step 3. Kill AFK miner/ratter
Step 4. Profit |
Cephelange du'Krevviq
Hephaestus LLC
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Posted - 2012.10.04 12:18:00 -
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Golar Crexis wrote:I completely agree with the OP.
He seems a very sensible person and a chill dude.
I think we can fix afk cloaking quite easily. Of course it means these exploiters will lose their gameplay but its not real pvp so it doesn't count.
The fix is simple: We remove local.
Finally those of us who are not interested in pvp will no longer have to worry about people afk cloaking in our system.
Not sure if serious. |
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